Tiller handle revived! Added Photos and companion way boards

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Tiller handle revived! Added Photos and companion way boards

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Lady Di,
Our most recently aquired C22 was in terrible shape cosmetically. The tiller handle for example. It was taken off the rudder post and stored on the sole of the cockpit. It had weathered to the point that the individual pieces of wood had separated from each other! Completely greyed and looking like junk I had resigned myself to simply buying a new one.

Dang, I wish I had taken decent before shots so you could see the change.

Since I had already decided to buy a new tiller handle, I figured I'd have at it with the old one with the idea that if it looks like crap when done, I'd toss it and say nothing! LOL!


Here is what I did:
First I need a heated environment so on came the garage heaters. Brought the tiller in to dry and warm up.

The individual pieces of wood were still held together by the lashing at the business end so I split them the best I could without dissassembly and absulutely STUFFED the pieces with slow drying epoxy from Lowes Hardware. I carefully cleand off the excess and wrapped the tiller in aluminum foil. The I took and over abundance of wire ties and wrapped the tiller tight every couple of inches going back to each tie and tightening it further whenever possible. Now I let that dry for 1 day in the garage now at 60 degrees.

Next day I cut the wire ties off, pulled the aluminum foil off ( keeps the ties from being epoxied to the wood ) and thought OMG! THAT THING IS UGLY!

Out came the orbital sander and 60 grit paper. I used the sander to remove all old finish, left over aluminum, and all excess epoxy that had ooozed out during the tie up phase.

Now I had a SOLID tiller that looked better but still had some minor separation between the pieces of wood. Hmm. Ah ha! Elmers glue! Yup!
I filled each crack with elmers glue and then preceded to sand with 200 grit paper. The sanding forced the sawdust into each crack where the glue took hold and effectively puttied up the cracks! Hey, Looks pretty good! I did however have to swap the paper out very regularly as it picked up glue! I let that dry for a day.

Next came two coats of Cetol. ( prefer it over varnish for ease of repair )
Unfortuantely my garage has dust so the Cetol looked good but was bumpy so out came the 600 grit sand paper. Rember to let the Cetal dry for 24 hours between coats. After the light sanding came a third coat of Cetol.

The final test for appearance . . . . .

Hey Honey, come look at what I did! LOL!


Now, admitedly, it is not a new looking tiller handle. Nor is it perfect. However, I will not be buying a new one!!

Tonight it should be dry enough for me to take down and take photos of and I will post here!


Here are the photos!
To see all the photos, click Ladi Di in my sig!


The tiller after rework!
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The companion way boards before . . . . .
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The companion way boards after!
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Post by Bhacurly »

Thanks Scott,

May have to try some of your tricks on my 27 handle,, Like you I will give it a shot before buying new and keep clammed up if it doesnt work...
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OK, I added photos to the first post!


Wood working is kinda fun!

Well, when done anyway!
LOL!


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Post by NYCSAILOR »

no way those are the same hatch boards... Cetol did all that .. please give me the steps on getting that done so nice...
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Post by Bhacurly »

Pam does our woodwork... It is amazing how nice they clean up!! We went with Teak oil though and just keep a can on the boat. Touch up before leavin the boat so it dries when were gone. Think some picts are on my flickr thingy here near the middle of the slide show...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bhacurly/s ... 7069/show/

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Wonderfull Billy!
Looks like you launched before surgery! Congrats!!


As far as the wood goes, If I had a photo of before of the tiller, you'd have said nice boards, OMG is that the same tiller! LOL!


I sanded the boards with an orbital sander and 60 grit paper replacing the paper regularly.VERY REGULARLY. Almost painfully often. Once done I sanded with 200 grit and the sander. Same drill. Do not skimp on the sand paper. The sand paper will fill up and get dull fast.

Once done I wiped it clean of dust. Next, I coated one side with cetol and let dry for 24 hours. Now flip over and do the edges and other side. I did that a total of three applications of cetol. just before the last application of Cetol I used 600 grit to smooth the dust particles in the finish.

I then let it dry for several days to make sure the cetol was completely cured. That was likely unnecessary but hey, why not.

Looks great!

However . . . .

The things you do not see:
The aluminum frame protected a nice strip of wood around the boards. This is very nice and apperant when I pull the boards out! When installed the strip is covered and the boards look nice and evenly worn. Also, I had a few runs in the cetol on the inside of the boards on the edges. Again, can't see it? Does not affect functionality? Leave it!


Lastly my opinion:
Varnish looks best to my eye however is the most work to maintain. If you really stay ontop of it it looks fabulous however get a good chip, scratch, or peeling and it is time to redue it all.

Oil Also looks fantastic however in my environment I'd have to oil once a month. Summer time, yes. Wintertime? Highly unlikely!

Cetol, actually changes the color of the wood. Almost and orange-ish tint. Not really noticable until you sit next to a varnished or oiled boat. Then it is noticable and you can't forget the color change. Not really noticable to non boaters but very noticeable to the owner. Why use Cetol then? I can get a satin look instead of a high gloss. I prefer that but also, cetal is extremely easy to patch up and hide nicks and dings. Just recoat the damaged area and it blends in! A very light sanding and recoat will make it look new again and can be done any time you want.


No I do not own stock in or work for Cetol. I just am lazy. I want my boat to look good but not perfect. If my boat is so nice I'm afraid to go sailing for fear of a scratch, it becomes a YACHT. I'm not into Yachts.

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Well, there's my 2.5 cents worth!
I'd had given my two bits but with the market and all . . . . . .

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Post by NYCSAILOR »

thanks scott...

great tips and you worked through all my thoughts, teak oil, vs, poly, vs varnish...

my problem is that my slip is right next to a retiree and his boat and varnish is like a boat show! and his boa is older than mine...he makes my boat look like a heap..and it really is a heap...

so I gotta do something, 'cause it is embarrassing... I will do all the wood work as shiny as aI can and I bought a new tiller and I have to figure out what to do with the topsides.. I think this season I will try penetrol OR compaounding and waxing... but I hear that if it doesn't work, it is a pain to remove the wax if you have to paint... what paint was used on flick? and I also have to clean up the cockpit gelcoat somehow.. all I do is powerwash eash sason and i doesn't cut it..
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Can you say canvas?

LOL!

Notice in my photos the new companion way cover for both Lady Jo and Lady Di? I also just finished a nice sock for the tiller handle! Yeah baby!

If I can't look as good as the next guy cover it! LOL! If I do look as good,
cover it until I'm there to enjoy it so it stays nice longer!


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Post by Bhacurly »

Scott do you have a pattern already for the companionway cover?

Pam is thinkin of making one for ours and it may save her some time,, if not no biggy...

By the way those flickr picts were 2 yrs old,, the boat is still on the hard. Hope to get the motor mount on this weekend.

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Yes, I do have the pattern.

It is a paper patter made of the thick project type paper.
You are welcome to it! How should I deliver it?

Mail? Are you in town again soon?

All I need is to confirm Diane did not toss it while I was not looking! LOL!

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Looks good Scott my rudder handle is perfect as it was never used I have a wheel but I heep it in case a cable breaks or something I can get her home. I am going to be refinishing companion way panels and hope they come out like yours. good job!!!
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Okay I did see Scott's tiller before this re-do. WOW, seriously I would not have even tried, that tiller was shot by even optimistic standards. That is extremely impressive wood work Scott.

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