I am trying to figure out which one of these would be better for pulling behind the sailboat. I personally like the Bic 245 since the water tender doesn't auto bail.
Any suggestions?
http://www.bicsportboats.com/products/bic-245,3,69.html
http://www.westmarine.com/products/33644.html
thanks,
Adam
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we have had the WaterTender for two years now, many cruising sailors use them, true not self bailing but we get hard tropical rains that come off the straits (6 inches one night) and just used a hand pump in the AM, also it will handle an outboard, we have a 5hp Nissan and yes it will get on a plane, we have had trouble with inflatables and coral beaches.....you might try looking on craigs list we found a 10 ft sailing dingy that does bail
we use it sometimes but the tender takes a beating and tracks great behind the boat
KS
we use it sometimes but the tender takes a beating and tracks great behind the boat
KSWell that's good to know. I wasn't expecting anybody to actually have personal experience with either of these.
KS,
Since you do have personal experience would be able to answer a few more questions?
The water tender seems a little large for a C-26 or am I wrong? I have a hard time judging from internet pictures.
Does it create much drag?
Does the tender have a tendency to tip in heavy weather?
Is it stable with more than one person in it?
Thanks for the info,
Adam
KS,
Since you do have personal experience would be able to answer a few more questions?
The water tender seems a little large for a C-26 or am I wrong? I have a hard time judging from internet pictures.
Does it create much drag?
Does the tender have a tendency to tip in heavy weather?
Is it stable with more than one person in it?
Thanks for the info,
Adam
I have two dinghies for Windward: a hard shell Backwater 7.5 and a Plastimo 270 HK inflatable.
The Backwater weighs only 40#, kind of planes with 2.5 HP and just one person aboard, and is tippy as all get out. It can hold me, my wife and my son to go exceptionally short distances from boat to dock or boat to beach, but even one person aboard is pushing it in any sort of chop.
The Plastimo has an inflatable keel, sectioned wooden flooring, is made of hypalon and weighs about 120#. Way, way heavy, but can get four people (wetly) to shore in light chop. 5 HP can plane with just me, but she really wants 8-10 HP. 15 HP with me alone was scary fast... > 22 kt.
I tow these boats sometimes, but either can be strapped down on the boat, and that's where they belong in any kind of rough stuff. They do slow my speed considerably when towed, and I believe once full of water would either tear loose, compromise my ability to control the boat, or both.
Whatever you get, I'd be sure you can slam it on the foredeck if conditions deteriorate.
The Backwater weighs only 40#, kind of planes with 2.5 HP and just one person aboard, and is tippy as all get out. It can hold me, my wife and my son to go exceptionally short distances from boat to dock or boat to beach, but even one person aboard is pushing it in any sort of chop.
The Plastimo has an inflatable keel, sectioned wooden flooring, is made of hypalon and weighs about 120#. Way, way heavy, but can get four people (wetly) to shore in light chop. 5 HP can plane with just me, but she really wants 8-10 HP. 15 HP with me alone was scary fast... > 22 kt.
I tow these boats sometimes, but either can be strapped down on the boat, and that's where they belong in any kind of rough stuff. They do slow my speed considerably when towed, and I believe once full of water would either tear loose, compromise my ability to control the boat, or both.
Whatever you get, I'd be sure you can slam it on the foredeck if conditions deteriorate.
Jeff
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That's a good suggestion Jeff.
The Bic 245 is 8 feet long and 4 feet wide and only weighs 86 lbs. so it would be easy pull up. I don't remember how much room there is between the pullpit and the mast step so I don't know if it will fit there. However, I'm getting a stern/radar arch made with future attatchments for a davits system, which would have no problem holding that size of dinghy.
I am a little uneasy about a boat that doesn't self bail (the bic does) and I like the fact that the bic has a little less surface area touching the water (maybe a little less resistance).
Adam
The Bic 245 is 8 feet long and 4 feet wide and only weighs 86 lbs. so it would be easy pull up. I don't remember how much room there is between the pullpit and the mast step so I don't know if it will fit there. However, I'm getting a stern/radar arch made with future attatchments for a davits system, which would have no problem holding that size of dinghy.
I am a little uneasy about a boat that doesn't self bail (the bic does) and I like the fact that the bic has a little less surface area touching the water (maybe a little less resistance).
Adam
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If you are adding a custom arch, remember to add cleats or whatever to lash the bow and stern of your dingy tight to your arch. When motoring or sailing in fairly calm water a dingy hanging is sweet. However when you hit steap square seas your dingy will take a beating as will your arch if you are not properly lashed.
On Destiny I lash the bow, stern and amidships of the dinghy to avoid it swinging at all in rough seas.
Just adding my two bits which is now worth about a nickle since I had it in the market.
Scott
On Destiny I lash the bow, stern and amidships of the dinghy to avoid it swinging at all in rough seas.
Just adding my two bits which is now worth about a nickle since I had it in the market.
Scott
The more sense that is thrown at me the richer I become.
I actually just finished talking with a good friend of mine and he brought up a good point about which boat to get. He said it would be nice to have something that was a little more comfy and roomy to take out and investigate while having the mother ship anchored.
I thought it was a really valid point so I think I'm going with the Watertender.
I was thinking too about the boat gathering rain, and even if there was a 2 inch down poor I can't see it causing so much weight that it's worth worrying about. I might later regret that statement but I hope not.
And Scott, thanks for the heads up about some of the issues of a davits system. How much weight do you think a radar arch can hold?
Adam
I actually just finished talking with a good friend of mine and he brought up a good point about which boat to get. He said it would be nice to have something that was a little more comfy and roomy to take out and investigate while having the mother ship anchored.
I thought it was a really valid point so I think I'm going with the Watertender.
I was thinking too about the boat gathering rain, and even if there was a 2 inch down poor I can't see it causing so much weight that it's worth worrying about. I might later regret that statement but I hope not.
And Scott, thanks for the heads up about some of the issues of a davits system. How much weight do you think a radar arch can hold?
Adam
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Well Adam,amayotte wrote: How much weight do you think a radar arch can hold?
Adam
There is no way I can answer that about your boat and arch however, mine can take a couple of hundred pouds. Please remember Destiny is not a Chrysler 26 so she will be rated different.
A note about your dingy. Ours has become the commuter ship to shore. Port can be 15 miles away from our anchorage. We sold the beautiful sailing dinghy in leu of a 10.2 Rib with 15hp motor. We can now run for ice, milk, or watever in a short trip where it used to take an hour and thus we'd not likely go. Our dingy is literally our fast taxi!
Scott
amayotte.. please share your radar arch design as I am planning same on the c-26.. I have a raymarine 2K radome and looking best place to mount it... I was thinking of moutning it to the foward side of the mast as I see on many sailboats but them doesn't the jib hang up on it on a tack...also was advised it should be gimbled to work properly when heeled.
NYCSAILOR,
I can't comment on Radar position, since I've never had one nor need one, but I am going to get my arch made by Klacko Marine.
http://www.klackomarine.ca/index2.html
They are very good to deal with and they deal internationally.
I don't have it yet but when I do I will send you pictures.
Adam
I can't comment on Radar position, since I've never had one nor need one, but I am going to get my arch made by Klacko Marine.
http://www.klackomarine.ca/index2.html
They are very good to deal with and they deal internationally.
I don't have it yet but when I do I will send you pictures.
Adam