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Hey Gang !

Haven't posted in a long time!
(I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR {real sailors} at the bottom of this post).

I am in the process of FULL-ON! refurbishment of my Chrysler 22 !
(It's gonn'a be Gorgeous !) (For your amusment and information (Below) are the Cliff-Notes version of what's happening at a VERY rapid pace !)

Refurbishment = 1000 dirt-dobber nests, 4 wasp nests, and 5 Black Widows later... with boat elevated on two sets of I-Beams/ concrete blocks.

Exterior:
New Keel bracket and pin, 3M5200/ (DONE! {and hand made !})
Keel Faring: (DONE! "To the metal" - Painted with Pettit Anti-fouling: Blue)
Bottom Paint (DONE! {yuck!} Pettit Anti-fouling Paint: All readers, you MUST wear (all) protection(s) while sanding OR painting the bottom - your life may depend on it! Color:Blue.
Hull Paint (Bought "Volvo Rival/ Reflections" Silver {metallic}
with dark purple {metallic} for boot stripe. Surface prep complete).
Rudder: (Sanded to fiberglass, needs some epoxy on tip, and repaint).
Shroud Protectors: (DONE! Used 1&1/4 PVC Caps... actually looks good!)
Tiller Handle: (DONE! turned a new one myself on a wood lathe out of
Cherry! Looks great!)
Interior:
Currently Gutted.
Table and Bulkheads: (DONE! relaminated with beautiful marbled formica)
(Formica: creams, carmel, and brown with marbled streaks of Navy Blue)
*****let me tell you, it's better than the 70's PINK that was in there!****
Hatch Covers - (DONE! Sanded/Painted Blue Latex).
Starboard Bench: WET foam REMOVED, now making cutout areas into
new hatches w/aluminum extrusion "h" moulding surround, and new wood
hatch covers. Probably need an interior hatch bulkhead for support of the long seating.
Cushions: (Sunbrella Fabric (Cooper Navy) ordered and on it's way....
Local seamstress has been contracted !) {Gorgeousness!... the Bulkheads
and this fabric will look famous together !!!!!!
Inside trim (DONE! painted with exterior Navy Blue Latex, nice and crisp!)
Transom: (DONE! motor brace fixed {kept popping out of the water on it's
own}. Wood Mount repainted.
ClamCleats: (Ordered and on the way)
Running Rigging (Priced!)
Trailer: (DONE! Boards replaced with *Walmonized wood, and recovered
with exterior carpeting. Bearings and Races done, but require reinspection.

So, the Mainsail I bought 2 years ago, and it maintains its brand-new look.
I have a swing-keel Chryselr 22 that will be used on medium sized lakes.

SO HERE'S THE QUESTION {for real sailors}
We have a worn & yellow-ed (and probably blown-out) Jib that wasn't original to the boat): Leech 21'4", Foot 10'3", Luff 23'2".
(original Chrysler Jib Specs): Leech 21.23, Foot 11.48, Luff 24.23
(Chrysler Genoa Specs): Leech 27,18, Foot 14.03, Luff 28.78

For my uses (me & my 3 kids), given that I have a limited supply of dollars left, which is the better purchase for a medium-sized lake/ mild-moderate wind ? Jib.... or Genoa. Whatever I buy will be used a great deal.

Lay me flat with some answers !

Bill Williams

Wow you have been making lots of headway there ! I'll let the C22 guys comment on sail choice, but wanted to chime in on the work !

WOW! That is a lot of work! Congrats on getting it done!


As far as jib choice, before asking what jib, think long and hard about the weather you are likely to sail in and the tollerance of your crew to healing.

The C22's are a fairly tender boat. What that means is they will heal early.
In 15kts of wind a lot of folks are thinking reef the main. Good thing on the 22's is the tend to get the rail near the water and stiffen up quite a bit making for an exciting ride.

My first and immediate thought was a 110% with slightly heavier material than a larger genny would be made from. What happens in lighter air you can still sail the 110%, maybe not terribly efficient but you still can sail her. When the winds pick up to 15kts or so, the 110 can still handle it and provide an exciting ride. Also thinking of 3 extra people aboard. Tacking a smaller sail is always easier. The 110 makes for a great working sail in most conditions.

Now if you know you always sail in lighter air the bigger genny is fine however you will stretch it out in heavy air making it less efficient.

My personal choice is the 110% which by the way is what the factory sent originally anyway. Then as money frees up in few months or years, you can get a nice genny to compliment the 110. That is exactly what I did.

Scott

I have both a 90% and an 110%.
For ease of sail handling I find the 90 is a easer sail to tack if the kids are helping sail.

Bill!

For the love of God!!! Where are the pics!

Mark

My son took some pics,
and I will call on him to take many more.
The before and after affect could be pretty good.

Cap'n Scott... how can I get the pics posted ?
I would like to do that, and make lots of people happy.
(they won't be as good as your keel-fix pics, but I'll
give her a try). ...and by the way, what a HUGE benefit
those pictures were, in prepping me to fix my keel brackets !!
It was VERY nice to be able to lean on those pics when I
had questions. I must say, that in the end, it was... and wasn't...
necessary to build new keel brackets: the caulk was 35 years
old, and moments away from leaking. the brackets and pin
were old but reasonable... problem was, it's hopeless... if you have to
replace the pin, doesn't seem like you really have any choice
but to cut the pin with a long-bladed Saws-all... and then, if you
came all that far... why not "just do it". So I did.

Will take more pics, and try to put something together.

Cap'n Scott once again, is giving me sage advice...
I thought hard between the two types of Dacron (4.0 & 5.0)
which is what's available from Sailwarehouse (where I got
my Mainsail {GREAT!). I thought about a thicker Dacron and
creating that "Airfoil" shape vs. 4.0 and lighter wind...
I thank all for their input, because I don't have the sailing
experience to make that judgment. I've realized that I
can't remember how far the {current} jib (21'4" leech)
went up the halyard. I question if I have room for a 23' leech
length. Basically, I can get (roughly) what we have now, just in thicker
Dacron (5.0): Leech 19, Luff 23&1/2, Foot 11. or....
closer to "jib spec" for Chrysler 22's (sailwarehouse is calling it a genoa)
out of 4.0 Dacron: Leech 23, Luff 24, Foot 12.3.
The thickness of material turns into a big deal I think.
I think the intention was "high aspect ratio", with thick material.
And airfoil shape seems the way to go with high aspect ratio.

Thanks for all the responses !
Bill Williams

Some handy tips on using photobucket to host and then show pics at:
http://www.chryslersailors.com/discussi ... php?t=1373

Works similar for other sites as well..it may take a bit of trial and error, but once you do it once it's easy !

If you give it a try, then Preview your post, you'll see the pic when its right..

If I could only have one, it would be the 110%