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Outboard Basics

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:30 am
by BC
Now that I've been educated about the desirability of running a gas motor rather than an electric ( at least in my sailing area) how about some knowledge on the basics of outboards from the group.

For a C22, sizes in HP, long shaft or not, controls to the cockpit, what would be a really good installation etc.

Thanks in advance BC

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:56 pm
by Jmckamey
I have a 7.5 extra long shaft mercury on mine and it really works well. It will push the boat at around 6 mph all day at 3/4 throttle. I wish it was an electric start with remote controls. I just bought an Oday 272 and as bad as I hate to I'm going to take the plunge and purchase a 15hp 4 stroke with remote controls. OUCH!!

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:39 am
by Alanhod

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:15 am
by mcrandall
"Copulation list"?!?!?! :shock: :oops:

That's for another blog, me thinks. :roll: :wink:

Funny the effect of one little "m"! :lol:

Very good list, nonetheless!!!!

Re: Outboard Basics

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:30 am
by BC
BC wrote:Now that I've been educated about the desirability of running a gas motor rather than an electric ( at least in my sailing area) how about some knowledge on the basics of outboards from the group.

For a C22, sizes in HP, long shaft or not, controls to the cockpit, what would be a really good installation etc.

Thanks in advance BC
Great list. I was looking for advice on HP 2 stroke / 4 stroke, long shaft, controls to cockpit etc.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:00 pm
by Paul
I was at the local boat shop a couple months ago talking motors while doing some rebuild on mine. His take was that 4 strokes only need to be about 2/3 the size of a 2 stroke because they have much more power in the bottom end of the rpm scale.

thoughts???

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:41 am
by Capt. Bondo
If I was installing the ideal outboard setup on a C22 (don't care how much it costs) it would be a extra long shaft, 4 stroke, 8 to 10 HP with the correct prop and charging capabilities. Controls to the cockpit including starting, Amp meter, water temp and RPM gauges. A really nice motor mount that is strong and a ease to use, power with a remote in the cockpit would be really cool.
But a setup like that would cost more than my boat :cry:

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:54 am
by tgentry
After losing the original Chrysler 280 (clogged coolant passages) and a used Johnson Sailmaster (salt corrosion, long story), motor bliss on Copacetic was achieved with a new Suzuki High Thrust, Power Tilt, Electric Start, Extra Long Shaft, Remote Control 9.9hp four stroke. One more season and I might even forget the price.

http://www.newsuzukioutboards.com/Suzuk ... .9THX.html

For some reason they no longer list the remote models, but I wouldn't be without my remote.

Note: A four stroke on a C-26 will require some sort of motor mount modification in order to tilt.

Basics

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:20 am
by BC
Like many here my C22 came pretty cheap. Therefore, maybe I can feel ok about spending for a good motor setup.

4 stroke
min. 4.5 hp / more would be better
long shaft
mid 80's / the newer the better
remote controls or fabricate-as done by some here

If I watch Craig's list for a good motor for 500$ or so, take my time it'll happen.
Thanks for the input BC

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:52 am
by tgentry
BC,
My second motor, the Johnson Sailmaster, was a tiller motor that I converted to remote (using the original Chrysler remote). It's not hard or expensive, especially if you can still get the parts kit from the manufacturer. If you don't have a remote control they're readily available on Ebay.

Before Copacetic I never owned an outboard motor. Those first two were a big learning experience. If you don't know outboards, I recommend taking someone along who does. It would have saved me from at least one mistake.

It Begins

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:17 am
by BC
Well it begins. I just bought a 7.5 hp Honda 4 stroke, long shaft off of Craig's-list 325$. An early model -late 70's but in beautiful condition.
Came with new poly tank, pressure bulb, and hose connectors. My C22's gas can well has a large fuel filter in line with an older hose. I'll replace all of that with a new line connectors and filter element and then look toward a remote engine control system.
Who knows I might even get to do some sailing now.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:30 pm
by Alanhod
mcrandall wrote:"Copulation list"?!?!?! :shock: :oops:

That's for another blog, me thinks. :roll: :wink:

Funny the effect of one little "m"! :lol:

Very good list, nonetheless!!!!
Wow, okay, ah, well.... That will teach me to quickly dash something off, hit submit and not come back on the forum for a week. :lol: Too funny

As for the best motor, the wind. Wow I am all kinds of no help on this thread. :?

Okay I say keep it light and keep it simple. If I were a mid sized lake sailor I'd go with a 2 stroke 5hp to 6hp motor. I have moved my C-22 with a 5hp 2 cycle in Puget Sound once and very little wind. It was a very long hot 12 hour day. I run a 9.9hp 2 stroke 1983 Johnson that I got off Craig's List for $350, best outboard ever... for me anyway. Lots of power when needed, light and can be pulled up out of the water easy. I figure I could run for about 18 hours on a 6 gallon tank of fuel at 3 knots with my 7 pitch prop. Now you can bet I'd bring along a back up tank of fuel before actually trying a 18 hour run at 3 knots, but it does sip fuel like no other I've tried.

Thanks
Alan