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Trailering c26

Postby Greg48 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:25 am

I am a new member and new to sailing so please bear with me. I have commited to buying a c26 with a tandem axle trailer. The trailer has 175/80/13 tires, rated at 1100 to 1360 lbs load each, probably not the original trailer. Does anyone know how much a c26 with a swing keel weighs, or what size tires are usually on these trailers. The trip home to Washington is 1400 miles. Any help will be gratly appricated, Thanks Greg

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Postby Mario G » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:01 am

Welcome Greg

Congrats on the C-26 its 5000lbs

I pulled a C-22 600+ miles on a single axle traler and would say just check the lug bolts.

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Postby Banshi » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:15 am

Tire pressure and condition should be your number one concern as long as the trailer itself appears to be in good condition.

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Postby hp18carr » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:25 am

Welcome Greg

Make sure you have working breaks on your trailer not only for safety, but I hear the H.P. in some states are really pushing this type of thing. You will love the boat... post somes pics you will find the members of this forum love them.

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Postby CaptainScott » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:52 am

Welcome aboard Greg!
Where in Washington are you headed to?
We have several Chrysler owners here some in Eastern Washington and some in Western Washington!

It'd be fun to get together some day!

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Postby EmergencyExit » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:57 am

Welcome aboard !!
C26 is rated at 5000 pounds, but reality is it probably weighs more than that depending on what it is carrying onboard at the time ! Plus the tires are carrying the weight of the trailer too.


4 tires rated at 1360 comes out to 5440, so you're probably pretty tight if you assume the highest rating of the tire and the lowest weight of the boat.

That being said, EE's trailer has been carefully towed twice with 14" non-trailer truck tires rated at about 1500 each.

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Postby tgentry » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:09 am

I figure boat, trailer and equipment to be around 7,000 lb. so those tires are very under-rated for the load. My trailer has mobile home tires and axles, so no worries about load rating for me.
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Postby Alanhod » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:26 pm

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Postby lecker68 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:11 pm

my trailer has load range E tires on it and if you get close to rated capacity the tires tend to heat up. I would measure the bolt pattern and see if you could get bigger rims and heavier tires. Last I saw on 13" tires only load range B and also getting close to rated when cornering with a tandem axle you have 2 things extra load on outboard tires and when making a left turn I would hate to lose 1 or both right tires also scuffing front or rear axle tires the tighter the turn the more scuff and that is where sidewalls of tires come in.
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Postby CaptainScott » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:49 am

Hey Lyle, you mention measuing the bolt pattern for new wheels.
How do you do that. The wheels on my trailer look pretty rough. I was thinking that if I blast and paint the trailer, new rims would be in order.

I was thinking about getting old truck rims for it to match my tow rig or maybe a set of old white 5 spoke ford rims. What do I need to do to measure the bolt pattern? Yeah I know count the lugs but what else do I measure??

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Postby clair hofmann » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:46 pm

Scott.
You should be fine getting an old set of Ford rims for your trailer.Chrysler and Ford have always had 5 on 4 1/2" rims. GM had their own pattern. Most 5 lug trailer wheels from 8" through 15" are 4 1/2". To confirm, get a compass or dividers and set it to 2 1/4". Put one side on the center of the hub and the other side in the center of the stud. Make sure the radius on your lug nuts match your new rims. If not, you can easily match them at any good auto parts store.
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Postby lecker68 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:21 pm

Clair has it right if you want to match with a tape measure measure center of 1 stud to center of third (skipping 1 stud). then you can go to a Tractor supply and use the same tape. In days gone by GM had a 4 3/4 bolt pattern
and Chrysler had 4" on smaller cars and 4 1/2 on larger cars and Ford had 4 1/2 but a smaller center hole. If you put a Ford wheel on a Chrysler the lugs would pull it on but when you went to take it off you were swinging a 20lb sledge.
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Postby Greg48 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:35 pm

Thanks for the warm welcome. After your replies I think I will buy a new set of 15" tires and wheels and maybe solve problems present and future. I live in the Walla Walla Washington area so the Pacific will gain one. Will learn to sail on the Columbia and Snake rivers then hope to go to Sandpoint and Coeur D Alene Idaho at least once this year. Big dream is to make it to Pudget Sound this year if possible. Thanks again for the welcome and trailer input. Greg

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Postby EmergencyExit » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:10 am

Found that out myself recently. EE had a bad tire that had a messed up rim, and I borrowed a 5 hole spare tire from a friend's MacGregor trailer, and after putting one lug bolt in, found none of the other holes lined up !

Oh and to whoever apparently boated up to our bulkhead and swiped the spare I had left on the back of EE's trailer, I hope it serves you well. Really I do, pay no attention to the gris gris I put on it.

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Postby CaptainScott » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:35 am

Awesome! Thanks Clair and Lyle!

Sounds like I'm likely OK with Ford rims but I need to do the measurements to confirm.


If I can get rims that match my Ford, I'd like that. They are likely readily available since I have stock rims. IF not then I'd like a set similar to my old trailer that I recently sold with Lady Di. I think they look very nice and are easy to touch up with paint.

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Postby lecker68 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:43 am

Scott that style of wheel is what My Tractor Supply (chain) sells make sure bolts and center hole are right I can remember taking a Galaxy wheel off a FuryII with a cutting torch( NOT fun) have a great day.
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Postby CaptainScott » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:47 am

Cool, Thanks Lyle!

I just may drag the trailer to where ever I buy the rims.
It is currently at Alans house. As soon as I get the keel on Lady Jo fixed, I'll be looking to sand blast the trailer. After paint I think respectible wheels are in order. No hurries though. I have ALL winter!

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Postby lecker68 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:04 am

Scott
When you sand blast trailer take a wheel off and this may sound simple take a piece of cardboard and a plain old pencil hold behind holes and trace all 6 holes then go to store and hold cardboard behind the wheel.
they sell tire and wheel combo and make sure load range is enough.
I pefer to have tires that will take 20% more than a loaded boatand trailer. Better safe than sorry I saw a person that bought an antique 1937 Chris Craft inboard for $30,000 at a museum auction and got new tires for the trailer to take it home and over torqued lug nuts (Squalk when tightening) and he left 10 min before me Iwas coming up behind him when he lost all the lug nuts because the studs snapped he wanted to put some parts he recovered from the boat that was toothpics as this happened at 70 MPH we put the engine and prop and shaft and the bow cleat in my truck. Yes when the trailer went he would have been better of if he skimped on the hitch (Lost a 2 yr old Crown Vic)
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Postby Alanhod » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:26 pm

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Postby Mario G » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:58 am

You mesure from center to center of tthe lug bolts for size and I should know it because not onlt will Ford truck rims work but so does the VW van rims (on my trailer now) and beleive it or not older Mercades Benz wheels.

I too was going to get a nice matching set of rims for my truck and trailer but know that the truck was redesignrd my a 16 yr old I'm going with what ever rolls...lol It doesnt have to look good it just needs to get the boat to the water.

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Postby CaptainScott » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:31 am

First, thanks all for the help on measuring rims!
I think I'm good to go now and can find rims without a size problem!


As far a summer get together?? I'm in! I'll happily plan it or help plan it!!


I highly recommend watching the 4th of July fireworks from a boat in Lake Union at least once!!!

However, I will not participate in a get together for a Lake Union 4th event.

To many boats and to large a proportion of the operators drinking. Not my style to hit large crowds and large amounts of drinkers in boats. Been there, done that, no thanks! Hmm, I smell a safety tip coming on! LOL!


I do not wish to discourage ANYONE from giving a try though! IT is a BLAST however a bit scary when the fireworks stop!!!

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Postby SN691 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:50 pm

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Postby SN691 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:11 am

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Postby CaptainScott » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:20 am

Good info, thanks Bob!
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